Legislature(2021 - 2022)DAVIS 106

04/22/2021 03:00 PM House HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 133 AK ED SAVINGS PROGRAMS/ELIGIBILITY TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 133(L&C) Out of Committee
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
+ HB 106 MISSING PERSONS UNDER 21 YEARS OLD TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
*+ HB 184 REQUIRE TRIBAL CHILD WELFARE COMPACT TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 145 EXPAND PHARMACIST AUTHORITY TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 145(HSS) Out of Committee
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
      HOUSE HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                     
                         April 22, 2021                                                                                         
                           3:12 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                             DRAFT                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Liz Snyder, Co-Chair                                                                                             
Representative Tiffany Zulkosky, Co-Chair                                                                                       
Representative Ivy Spohnholz                                                                                                    
Representative Zack Fields                                                                                                      
Representative Ken McCarty                                                                                                      
Representative Christopher Kurka                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Mike Prax                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 133                                                                                                              
"An  Act relating  to  the Alaska  savings  program for  eligible                                                               
individuals; relating to education  savings programs; relating to                                                               
the Education  Trust of  Alaska; relating  to the  Alaska advance                                                               
college tuition  savings fund; relating  to the  Alaska education                                                               
savings  program for  children;  and relating  to the  Governor's                                                               
Council on Disabilities and Special Education."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HB 133 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 145                                                                                                              
"An Act  relating to  the Board of  Pharmacy; relating  to health                                                               
care services  provided by pharmacists and  pharmacy technicians;                                                               
and relating to the practice of pharmacy."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED CSHB 145(HSS) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 106                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to missing persons under 21 years of age."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 184                                                                                                              
"An Act requiring  state participation in a  tribal child welfare                                                               
compact."                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 133                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: AK ED SAVINGS PROGRAMS/ELIGIBILITY                                                                                 
SPONSOR(s): LABOR & COMMERCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
03/10/21       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/10/21       (H)       L&C, FIN                                                                                               
03/17/21       (H)       L&C AT 5:45 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/17/21       (H)       <Bill Hearing Canceled>                                                                                
03/19/21       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/19/21       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/19/21       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
03/24/21       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM DAVIS 106                                                                               
03/24/21       (H)       Moved CSHB 133(L&C) Out of Committee                                                                   
03/24/21       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
03/24/21       (H)       L&C AT 5:45 PM DAVIS 106                                                                               
03/24/21       (H)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
03/25/21       (H)       L&C RPT CS(L&C) 6DP 1NR                                                                                
03/25/21       (H)       DP: SNYDER, SCHRAGE, MCCARTY, NELSON,                                                                  
                       SPOHNHOLZ, FIELDS                                                                                        
03/25/21       (H)       NR: KAUFMAN                                                                                            
04/07/21       (H)       HSS REPLACES FIN REFERRAL                                                                              
04/07/21       (H)       BILL REPRINTED                                                                                         
04/20/21       (H)       HSS AT 3:00 PM DAVIS 106                                                                               
04/20/21       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/20/21       (H)       MINUTE(HSS)                                                                                            
04/22/21       (H)       HSS AT 3:00 PM DAVIS 106                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 145                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: EXPAND PHARMACIST AUTHORITY                                                                                        
SPONSOR(s): SNYDER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
03/24/21       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/24/21       (H)       L&C, HSS                                                                                               
04/12/21       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
04/12/21       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/12/21       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
04/16/21       (H)       L&C AT 8:00 AM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
04/16/21       (H)       Moved HB 145 Out of Committee                                                                          
04/16/21       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
04/19/21       (H)       L&C RPT 6DP 1NR                                                                                        
04/19/21       (H)       DP: SCHRAGE, MCCARTY, SNYDER, NELSON,                                                                  
                       FIELDS, SPOHNHOLZ                                                                                        
04/19/21       (H)       NR: KAUFMAN                                                                                            
04/20/21       (H)       HSS AT 3:00 PM DAVIS 106                                                                               
04/20/21       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/20/21       (H)       MINUTE(HSS)                                                                                            
04/22/21       (H)       HSS AT 3:00 PM DAVIS 106                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 106                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: MISSING PERSONS UNDER 21 YEARS OLD                                                                                 
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
02/19/21       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/19/21       (H)       STA, HSS                                                                                               
03/11/21       (H)       STA AT 3:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
03/11/21       (H)       Scheduled but Not Heard                                                                                
03/16/21       (H)       STA AT 3:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
03/16/21       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/16/21       (H)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
03/25/21       (H)       STA AT 3:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
03/25/21       (H)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
04/01/21       (H)       STA AT 3:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
04/01/21       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/01/21       (H)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
04/08/21       (H)       STA AT 3:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
04/08/21       (H)       Moved HB 106 Out of Committee                                                                          
04/08/21       (H)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
04/09/21       (H)       STA RPT 5DP 2NR                                                                                        
04/09/21       (H)       DP: CLAMAN, STORY, VANCE, TARR, KREISS-                                                                
                         TOMKINS                                                                                                
04/09/21       (H)       NR: EASTMAN, KAUFMAN                                                                                   
04/22/21       (H)       HSS AT 3:00 PM DAVIS 106                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 184                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: REQUIRE TRIBAL CHILD WELFARE COMPACT                                                                               
SPONSOR(s): ZULKOSKY                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
04/21/21       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
04/21/21       (H)       HSS, FIN                                                                                               
04/22/21       (H)       HSS AT 3:00 PM DAVIS 106                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
STUART SPIELMAN, Senior Vice President for Advocacy                                                                             
Autism Speaks                                                                                                                   
Washington, DC                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 133.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
PAMELA LEARY                                                                                                                    
Treasury Division                                                                                                               
Department of Revenue (DOR)                                                                                                     
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:   During  the hearing  of  HB 133,  answered                                                             
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
TOM WADSWORTH, PharmD, Administrative Director                                                                                  
University of  Alaska/Idaho State  University Doctor  of Pharmacy                                                               
Program                                                                                                                         
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION  STATEMENT:   During  the hearing  of  HB 145,  answered                                                             
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
JUSTIN RUFFRIDGE, PharmD                                                                                                        
State Board of Pharmacy                                                                                                         
Soldotna, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION  STATEMENT:   During  the hearing  of  HB 145,  answered                                                             
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
KATHRYN MONFREDA, Director                                                                                                      
Division of Statewide Services                                                                                                  
Department of Public Safety                                                                                                     
POSITION STATEMENT:   Presented HB 106, sponsored  by House Rules                                                             
by  request  of  the  governor, via  a  PowerPoint  presentation,                                                               
entitled, "House Bill 106 Missing Persons Under 21 Years Old."                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
PAUL FUSSEY, Lieutenant                                                                                                         
Alaska State Troopers                                                                                                           
Department of Public Safety                                                                                                     
POSITION  STATEMENT:   During  the hearing  of  HB 106,  answered                                                             
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
NICOLE BORROMEO, General Counsel and Executive Vice President                                                                   
Alaska Federation of Natives                                                                                                    
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 184.                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
MELANIE BAHNKE, President                                                                                                       
Kawerak Organization                                                                                                            
Nome, Alaska                                                                                                                    
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 184.                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
VIVIAN KORTHUIS, Chief Executive Officer                                                                                        
Association of Village Council Presidents                                                                                       
Bethel, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 184.                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
ELIZABETH HENSLEY, General Counsel                                                                                              
Maniilaq Association                                                                                                            
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   During  the hearing  of  HB 184,  answered                                                             
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:12:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
CO-CHAIR  TIFFANY ZULKOSKY  called  the House  Health and  Social                                                             
Services  Standing  Committee  meeting  to  order  at  3:12  p.m.                                                               
Representatives  Fields,  McCarty,  Kurka, Zulkosky,  and  Snyder                                                               
were  present at  the call  to order.   Representative  Spohnholz                                                               
arrived as the meeting was in progress.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
           HB 133-AK ED SAVINGS PROGRAMS/ELIGIBILITY                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:13:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ZULKOSKY announced  that  the first  order of  business                                                               
would  be HOUSE  BILL NO.  133, "An  Act relating  to the  Alaska                                                               
savings program  for eligible individuals; relating  to education                                                               
savings  programs; relating  to  the Education  Trust of  Alaska;                                                               
relating  to the  Alaska advance  college  tuition savings  fund;                                                               
relating to  the Alaska education  savings program  for children;                                                               
and  relating  to  the Governor's  Council  on  Disabilities  and                                                               
Special Education."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS,  as  prime  sponsor,  offered  to  answer                                                               
questions on HB 133.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:14:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STUART  SPIELMAN,  Senior  Vice President  for  Advocacy,  Autism                                                               
Speaks,  testified in  support  of  HB 133.    He explained  that                                                               
Autism  Speaks is  dedicated to  promoting  solutions across  the                                                               
spectrum   and  throughout   the  lifespan   for  the   needs  of                                                               
individuals  with  autism  spectrum   disorder  (ASD)  and  their                                                               
families.  He highlighted that one  of the needs of the community                                                               
is to provide  for the expenses that are incurred  as a result of                                                               
disability.    He noted  that  Autism  Speaks has  supported  the                                                               
Achieving  a Better  Life Experience  (ABLE) Act  and legislation                                                               
surrounding the ABLE Act, including  the proposed legislation [HB
133].   He  explained that  individuals with  autism often  incur                                                               
extra expenses,  and the  ABLE Act allows  for family  members to                                                               
plan and provide for those expenses.   He added that the ABLE Act                                                               
became law  in 2014  and the first  programs were  established in                                                               
2017.  He  relayed that he has  data that shows that,  at the end                                                               
of 2020, there  were 82,019 accounts with $643  million in assets                                                               
invested.  He compared this to  2017 when there were no accounts.                                                               
He concluded that Autism Speaks  supports HB 133 because it would                                                               
conform Alaska law to the changes in federal law.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:17:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SPIELMAN  in response to  Representative McCarty,  noted that                                                               
the  accounts  and  assets  data was  sourced  from  "ISS  Market                                                               
Intelligence."     In  response  to  a   follow-up  question,  he                                                               
clarified that the data relates to ABLE programs nationwide.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCARTY asked  Mr.  Spielman whether  he has  the                                                               
numbers for Alaska.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. SPIELMAN responded that he does not.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:18:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAMELA  LEARY, Treasury  Division, Department  of Revenue  (DOR),                                                               
responded  to  Representative  McCarty's question,  stating  that                                                               
there are currently over 620  ABLE Accounts in Alaska which total                                                               
$5 million in assets.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:19:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KURKA  noted that  it  had  been mentioned  in  a                                                               
previous hearing  that a benefit  of the proposed  legislation is                                                               
that it would support individuals  who require federal assistance                                                               
in  becoming  independent.   He  asked  Representative Fields  to                                                               
describe how the  process would work and how  it would facilitate                                                               
independence.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS responded  with the example of  his dad who                                                               
was a social  worker, and some of his dad's  clients would need a                                                               
lot of help, and some did not.   He shared that some of his dad's                                                               
clients  had jobs  but didn't  necessarily make  enough money  to                                                               
live  independently.   He explained  that an  ABLE account  would                                                               
allow an individual able to  live independently right now to save                                                               
up  and  invest  in  avenues  such  as  education  so  that  this                                                               
individual  could become  more  independent in  the  future.   It                                                               
would  also  ensure  that,  while   working  and  saving  up  for                                                               
education,  an  individual  wouldn't lose  the  critical  support                                                               
necessary to  get by.   He agreed that  a cap on  provided public                                                               
assistance is  necessary but opined  that the caps  are currently                                                               
so  low  that individuals  can  be  disincentivized to  save  for                                                               
things like education.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KURKA   offered  his  understanding   that  these                                                               
programs  seem to  be  an "on  or off  switch,"  not a  graduated                                                               
"weaning  off."     He  said  that  it  seemed  to   him  like  a                                                               
disincentive  to being  independent and  to working  within one's                                                               
capacity.   He applauded the  concept of allowing  individuals to                                                               
find personal freedom and provide for themselves.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:22:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SPOHNHOLZ  commented  that  many  benefits  being                                                               
discussed  are related  to financial  subsidies, but  many others                                                               
are  related to  home and  community-based waivers  services that                                                               
are  designed to  pay for  people who  do the  kind of  work like                                                               
Representative Fields' dad did, or  like she herself did early on                                                               
in her career.   She shared that part of  her work involved going                                                               
into   the  homes   of  people   with   disabilities  who   lived                                                               
independently in  the community, most  of whom had jobs,  but due                                                               
to  cognitive disabilities,  these individuals  were not  able to                                                               
earn enough  money to live  financially independently  and needed                                                               
people to help  them do things like balance  their checkbooks and                                                               
go  grocery shopping.    She shared  that  if these  individuals'                                                               
income got too high, these  services would no longer be available                                                               
to  them, and  these  individuals would  have to  go  live in  an                                                               
assisted living facility  or something similar.   A facility like                                                               
this, she noted,  costs the state much more money  and allows for                                                               
less autonomy and dignity for the individuals.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:24:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY referred  to page 2, section  6, lines 30-                                                               
31 of HB 133, which read:                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
      (1) "department" means the Department of Health and                                                                   
     Social 31 Services [REVENUE];                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCARTY asked  Representative  Fields the  reason                                                               
for removing  revenue if  the bill deals  with the  management of                                                               
money.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE    FIELDS    responded   that    he    understands                                                               
Representative McCarty  to be  referring to a  draft of  the bill                                                               
that  was originally  considered in  a House  Labor and  Commerce                                                               
Standing  Committee,  but  that   committee  passed  a  committee                                                               
substitute  [CSHB   133  (L&C)]   to  change   it  back   to  the                                                               
responsibility of the Department of  Revenue (DOR).  He explained                                                               
that individuals  had different perspectives on  the most logical                                                               
department to  house the proposed legislation,  and the committee                                                               
decided to leave it in DOR.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY asked which draft is being considered.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ZULKOSKY offered  clarification that  the version                                                               
before members should be [CSHB 133 (L&C)].                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS added  that that  was the  one substantive                                                               
change  that  was  made  to  the previous  version  of  the  bill                                                               
introduced during the Thirty-First Alaska State Legislature.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:26:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SNYDER moved  to report CSHB 133 (L&C)  out of committee                                                               
with  individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  fiscal                                                               
notes.   There  being no  objection, CSHB  133(L&C) was  reported                                                               
from the House Health and Social Services Standing Committee.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:27:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 3:27 p.m. to 3:30 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
               HB 145-EXPAND PHARMACIST AUTHORITY                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:30:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ZULKOSKY  announced that  the  next  order of  business                                                               
would be  HOUSE BILL NO.  145, "An Act  relating to the  Board of                                                               
Pharmacy;   relating  to   health  care   services  provided   by                                                               
pharmacists  and  pharmacy  technicians;   and  relating  to  the                                                               
practice of pharmacy."                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:30:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SPOHNHOLZ  moved to adopt  Amendment 1 to  HB 145,                                                               
labeled 32-LS0720\A.1, Fisher, 4/19/21, which read as follows:                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Page 5, following line 18:                                                                                                 
          Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                    
        "* Sec. 12. AS 21.42 is amended by adding a new                                                                     
     section to read:                                                                                                           
          Sec. 21.42.440. Coverage for costs of services                                                                      
     provided  by   pharmacists.  A  policy,   contract,  or                                                                  
     prepaid plan  for individual or group  health insurance                                                                    
     issued  or   delivered  in  the  state   that  provides                                                                    
     coverage for  services within the scope  of practice of                                                                    
     a pharmacist  licensed under AS 08.80 must  provide for                                                                    
     coverage  of  and  reimbursement for  the  services  if                                                                    
     performed by  a pharmacist  for a person  covered under                                                                    
     the policy, contract, or plan."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:30:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ZULKOSKY objected for discussion purposes.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:31:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SPOHNHOLZ explained that  the purpose of Amendment                                                               
1  would  be   to  require  insurance  to   cover  services  that                                                               
pharmacists  are trained  to provide,  but for  which pharmacists                                                               
are not currently  able to receive reimbursement.   She said that                                                               
this would help provide health care in the community.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:31:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SNYDER  commented that the amendment  would add language                                                               
to the bill  that would further ensure that  pharmacists could be                                                               
reimbursed for the services provided.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:32:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ZULKOSKY removed her objection.   There being no further                                                               
objection, Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:32:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCARTY moved  to adopt  Amendment 2  to HB  145,                                                               
labeled 32-LS0720\A.2, Fisher, 4/19/21, which read:                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Page 4, following line 12:                                                                                                 
     Insert a new subsection to read:                                                                                           
          "(c)  This section does not authorize a                                                                               
     pharmacist to  prescribe a  prescription drug  that the                                                                    
     pharmacist is not otherwise authorized to prescribe."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Reletter the following subsection accordingly.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:32:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ZULKOSKY objected for discussion purposes.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:32:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY explained that  Amendment 2 would insert a                                                               
new  section   that  would  recognize  the   authorization  of  a                                                               
pharmacist  under the  guidelines of  the scope  of practice  for                                                               
pharmacy.  It would ensure that  pharmacists would not be able to                                                               
prescribe beyond the scope of practice, he added.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:33:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KURKA  shared  his  understanding  that,  when  a                                                               
doctor prescribes a  new medication, the doctor looks  at all the                                                               
other medications the patient might  be taking to ensure that the                                                               
medications  will not  react poorly  with each  other.   He asked                                                               
whether  prescribing pharmacists  would have  access to  the same                                                               
information to ensure  that there would be  no negative reactions                                                               
with a patient's other medications.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SNYDER  responded  that  Amendment 2  aims  to  further                                                               
narrow   the   scope   of    pharmacists,   which   may   address                                                               
Representative  Kurka's concern,  and  deferred  the question  to                                                               
invited testifiers.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:34:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TOM  WADSWORTH, PharmD,  Administrative  Director, University  of                                                               
Alaska/Idaho  State   University  Doctor  of   Pharmacy  Program,                                                               
responded  absolutely,  and  explained that  pharmacists  have  a                                                               
patient  care  process  that  is  similar  to  all  patient  care                                                               
processes.     He  said  that  it   includes  collaboration  with                                                               
documentation,  which  includes   collecting  Electronic  Medical                                                               
Records  (EMR),  paper  records, referrals,  laboratory  studies,                                                               
past medical histories,  and histories of the  chief complaint of                                                               
the patient.   He explained  that pharmacists have access  to all                                                               
this  information, and  if for  some reason  that information  is                                                               
missing,  pharmacists either  order or  ask for  the information.                                                               
He opined  that it  would be unprofessional  for a  pharmacist to                                                               
proceed without proper access to that information.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. WADSWORTH  referenced Section  8 of  HB 145,  which discusses                                                               
the  collaborative authority  of pharmacists,  and said  that the                                                               
collaborative practice  agreements that pharmacists  already have                                                               
with  physicians  involve  drawing   up  specific  protocols  and                                                               
procedures in  the patient care  process that the  pharmacist and                                                               
the collaborating  provider will  adhere to.   He  explained that                                                               
those  protocols and  procedures  are reviewed  by  the Board  of                                                               
Pharmacy and the  Board of Medicine in Alaska before  they can be                                                               
implemented.  He said that  these precautions prevent pharmacists                                                               
from  going  outside of  their  area  of  expertise or  scope  of                                                               
practice.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:38:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JUSTIN  RUFFRIDGE, PharmD,  State Board  of Pharmacy,  added that                                                               
the information flow between pharmacists  and providers goes both                                                               
directions.   Pharmacists, he said,  access medical  histories of                                                               
patients to  ascertain if there  may be any  medication conflicts                                                               
or other  potential issues.   He  explained that  many pharmacies                                                               
keep and use those records if  a patient transfers to a different                                                               
prescriber or goes  into the hospital.   Pharmacists are involved                                                               
in reviewing  patient charts with  the intake nurse if  a patient                                                               
were to enter a hospital or intake facility, he said.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:40:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 3:40 p.m. to 3:41 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:41:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ZULKOSKY removed her objection.   There being no further                                                               
objection, Amendment 2 was adopted.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:41:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SNYDER said  she  sees the  need  for legislation  that                                                               
would ensure that the Board  of Pharmacy can oversee pharmacists,                                                               
and  that   pharmacists  can  be  reimbursed   for  the  services                                                               
provided.   She also  emphasized the need  for clarity  to ensure                                                               
that pharmacists' scope of practice  is not being expanded by the                                                               
proposed  legislation.   She said  she would  offer a  conceptual                                                               
amendment to accomplish this.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:43:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SNYDER moved to adopt  Conceptual Amendment 3 to HB 144,                                                               
as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Page 4, Line 1:                                                                                                            
           Delete "for a disease or condition with an                                                                         
      existing diagnosis and for a condition that does not                                                                    
     require a new diagnosis."                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
     Page 4, Line 5:                                                                                                            
          Delete "and                                                                                                         
          Insert "or"                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Page 4, Line 6:                                                                                                            
          Delete "optimization of medication therapy for"                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS objected for discussion purposes.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SNYDER explained her  conceptual amendment would further                                                               
clarify that the bill would  not interfere with the collaborative                                                               
practice authority (CPA) regulation  and would remove language so                                                               
as  not  to  imply  an   expansion  of  pharmacists'  prescribing                                                               
authority.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:45:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. WADSWORTH  expressed his support for  Conceptual Amendment 3.                                                               
He  explained that,  in  working with  the  Alaska State  Medical                                                               
Association,  he realized  the language  that was  chosen in  the                                                               
bill sought  to modify  the CPA regulation  that's been  in place                                                               
since 2002.  He  said that the intent is not  to modify or change                                                               
that process as  it already works well in its  current state.  He                                                               
shared his understanding  that other language in  the bill seemed                                                               
to  broaden independent  prescriptive authority  for pharmacists,                                                               
and Conceptual Amendment  3 would clarify the intent  of the bill                                                               
and ensure that prescriptive authority would not be broadened.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:47:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY asked whether there  would be a need for a                                                               
period after "services"  in Section 8 of HB 145,  on page 4, line                                                               
1,  ["provide  patient  care services"],  given  that  Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 3  proposes the  deletion language on  page 4,  line 1,                                                               
[text provided previously].                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ZULKOSKY responded  that when a motion  comes before the                                                               
committee,  there  will  likely   be  a  recommendation  to  make                                                               
technical  and conforming  changes  as needed.    She said  those                                                               
changes would be made by Legislative Legal Services.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR   SNYDER  commented   that   she   would  request   that                                                               
Legislative Legal Services add a period as it is needed.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:47:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KURKA  asked  for clarification  of  the  changes                                                               
being  made by  the amendment,  and  whether it  would widen  the                                                               
scope of pharmacists.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SNYDER  responded that  the  first  part of  Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 3, which  proposes the deletion of language  on page 4,                                                               
line  1,  would  make  HB  145 consistent  with  the  CPA.    She                                                               
explained that  it is not  about widening or narrowing  the scope                                                               
of  pharmacists, but  simply making  it consistent  with existing                                                               
CPA  regulations.   She added  that the  second component  of the                                                               
conceptual  amendment would  further  clarify that  the scope  of                                                               
services that pharmacists can provide is not being broadened.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:49:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS removed  his  objection.   There being  no                                                               
further objection, Conceptual Amendment 3 was adopted.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:49:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KURKA shared  his understanding  that the  bills                                                                
main  purpose is  to expand  the ability  of pharmacists  to help                                                               
consult  patients  and  administer tests,  particularly  COVID-19                                                               
tests.   He asked to what  extent the scope of  pharmacists would                                                               
be increased or not increased should HB 145 pass.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SNYDER   answered  that   the  intent  is   to  provide                                                               
clarification  on the  range of  practices  that pharmacists  are                                                               
already engaged in to ensure  that "out of date" statutes reflect                                                               
the  current   state  of  practice.     She   mentioned  testing,                                                               
vaccination,  and   administration  of  Naloxone   as  additional                                                               
details  that needed  to be  captured.   She  explained that  the                                                               
final intent  of the bill  is that pharmacists have  already been                                                               
providing this type  of care for an extended period  of time, but                                                               
pharmacists were not able to be  reimbursed by insurance due to a                                                               
lack of language [in statute].                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:52:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. RUFFRIDGE added  that the Board of Pharmacy  is attempting to                                                               
regulate the areas in which  pharmacists are engaged, ensure that                                                               
pharmacists  are  seen  as practicing  within  their  scope,  and                                                               
pharmacists are  able to be  reimbursed for their practices.   He                                                               
emphasized that pharmacists both  dispense medications and act as                                                               
a  "middle manager"  in health  care.   He said  that pharmacists                                                               
rarely  find  themselves  in entities  such  as  hospitals  where                                                               
insurances  can  be  billed for  the  services  that  pharmacists                                                               
provide.   He said the  conceptual amendment wouldn't  change the                                                               
ways in  which pharmacists dispense medications  but would remove                                                               
limitations to ensure that pharmacists  are able to perform fully                                                               
as a "manager  of care in the middle."   He offered clarification                                                               
that pharmacists are providers of  services, not just dispensers,                                                               
and  said  that  the  proposed legislation  with  the  conceptual                                                               
amendment would allow for that.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:54:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY  requested clarification on  the potential                                                               
for  pharmacists to  offer treatment  through  the dispensing  of                                                               
Buprenorphine.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. RUFFRIDGE responded that work  needs to be done nationwide on                                                               
this issue.   He noted that there are other  requirements to be a                                                               
part  of a  medication-assisted treatment  (MAT) program,  one of                                                               
which is  a federal change  that would have  to happen.   He said                                                               
that  pharmacists are  already engaged  in this  in primary  care                                                               
settings.   As far as a  wider offering [of the  medication] that                                                               
Representative McCarty  is suggesting, HB  145 is a step  in that                                                               
direction,  he said.   He  explained  that the  bill would  well-                                                               
position the state to be  available to implement those additional                                                               
types of therapies should the federal changes be made.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY  commented that  he hopes the  state stays                                                               
within the  guidelines of the  Substance Abuse and  Mental Health                                                               
Services Administration (SAMHSA) and the MAT program.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:57:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS moved to report  HB 145, as amended, out of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
fiscal  notes.   There  being  no  objection, CSHB  145(HSS)  was                                                               
reported  from  the House  Health  and  Social Services  Standing                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
           HB 106-MISSING PERSONS UNDER 21 YEARS OLD                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:01:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ZULKOSKY  announced that  the  next  order of  business                                                               
would be HOUSE BILL NO. 106,  "An Act relating to missing persons                                                               
under 21 years of age."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:01:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATHRYN  MONFREDA,  Director,  Division  of  Statewide  Services,                                                               
Department  of  Public Safety,  presented  HB  106, sponsored  by                                                               
House  Rules  by  request  of  the  governor,  via  a  PowerPoint                                                               
presentation, entitled, "House Bill  106 Missing Persons Under 21                                                               
Years Old."   She explained that  the bill would bring  state law                                                               
into  compliance  with  federal  law as  it  relates  to  missing                                                               
persons  aged  18 through  21.  She  began  on page  2,  "Federal                                                               
Reporting   Requirements,"  which   read  as   follows  [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     ? Suzanne's Law:  P. LAW 108-21, Title  II, Section 204                                                                    
     ?  Requires  law  enforcement   to  enter  records  for                                                                    
     missing persons under  the age of 21  into the National                                                                    
     Crime Information Center (NCIC) database (2003)                                                                            
     ? Adam Walsh Act: P. LAW 109-248 Section 154                                                                               
     ?  Requires  law  enforcement   to  enter  records  for                                                                    
     missing  persons under  the  age of  21  into the  NCIC                                                                    
     database  within two  hours of  being reported  missing                                                                    
     (2006)                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. MONFREDA continued to slide  3, "Current Statutory Language,"                                                               
which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     ?  AS 18.65.620  requires reporting  missing minors  to                                                                    
     the  state's  Missing   Persons  Clearinghouse  if  not                                                                    
     located within 48-hours after first reported missing                                                                       
      ? AS 47.10.141 requires  reporting missing minors into                                                                    
     state and  national databases no  later than  24- hours                                                                    
     after completing the missing person report                                                                                 
     ?  AS 47.10.390  defines  'runaway minor'  as a  person                                                                    
     under 18 years of age                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MONFREDA   advanced  to  slide  4,   "Summary  of  Statutory                                                               
Changes," which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     ? Changes  required for AS  47.10.141 and  AS 18.65.620                                                                    
     to comply with the two federal laws regarding                                                                              
     ? Entry  into state and national  databases for missing                                                                    
     persons under  age 21 instead of  the state requirement                                                                    
     of age 18                                                                                                                  
     ?  Entry  of  the   records  into  state  and  national                                                                    
     databases   within  2-hours   instead   of  the   state                                                                    
     requirement of 24-hours                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:04:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MONFREDA proceeded to slide 5, "Current Procedures,"                                                                        
which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     ? Statewide training for law  enforcement is already in                                                                    
     place   regarding   the    more   restrictive   federal                                                                    
     requirements                                                                                                               
     ?  Most state  and local  law enforcement  agencies are                                                                    
     already  complying with  the  more restrictive  federal                                                                    
     requirements                                                                                                               
     ?  Programming for  the state  database, Alaska  Public                                                                    
     Safety  Information Network  (APSIN), has  already been                                                                    
     completed to allow law enforcement  to enter reports to                                                                    
     comply with the more restrictive federal requirements                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. MONFREDA addressed slide 6, "Benefits," which read as                                                                       
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     ? Remove conflicting,  less restrictive state statutory                                                                    
     requirements                                                                                                               
     ? Faster  state and nationwide notification  of missing                                                                    
     person records for those under age 21                                                                                      
     ?  The  National  Center   for  Missing  and  Exploited                                                                    
     Children  monitors national  databases and  proactively                                                                    
     offers assistance                                                                                                          
     ?  Improved response  for  the vulnerable,  college-age                                                                    
     population of missing persons                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. MONFREDA spoke to slide 7, "Sectional Analysis," which                                                                      
read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     ? Section  1: Includes  conforming language  related to                                                                    
     the  duty  of  law   enforcement  agencies  to  reflect                                                                    
     changes made in section 2.                                                                                                 
     ? Section  2: Adds  a new  subsection to  AS 18.65.620,                                                                    
     requiring  law  enforcement   agencies  to  transmit  a                                                                    
     missing person's report  for a person under  the age of                                                                    
     21 to the Alaska  Public Safety Information Network and                                                                    
     the  National  Crime  Information  Center  as  soon  as                                                                    
     practicable,  but  not  later   than  two  hours  after                                                                    
     completing the  report. If the  person is  later found,                                                                    
     the  agency shall  remove that  information from  those                                                                    
     databases as  soon as practicable,  but not  later than                                                                    
     24 hours after learning the person has been located.                                                                       
     ?  Section  3:  Contains   conforming  language  to  AS                                                                    
     47.10.141,  runaway   and  missing  children,   to  the                                                                    
     changes  made in  section 2.  All reporting  procedures                                                                    
     for persons under the age of 21 are moved to AS 18.65,                                                                     
     as amended in section 2 of the bill.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:07:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KURKA   asked  about   the  current   process  of                                                               
establishing  that someone  is a  missing  person, including  how                                                               
persons  of different  ages are  treated, and  how long  it would                                                               
take to consider a person to be missing.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MONFREDA deferred  the question  to  invited testifier  Paul                                                               
Fussey.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:07:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAUL FUSSEY, Lieutenant, Alaska  State Troopers (AST), Department                                                               
of Public  Safety, responded to Representative  Kurka's question.                                                               
He explained that  if someone reports a missing  person, there is                                                               
no time limit or time frame  the reporter must abide by; a person                                                               
can be considered missing after any period of time.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KURKA asked  at what point the  officer taking the                                                               
information would take  action and begin searching  for a missing                                                               
person.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. FUSSEY replied that the officer  would take action as soon as                                                               
the  officer takes  the report.   The  officer would  immediately                                                               
start looking into the location of the missing person.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KURKA  asked whether  the  process  would be  any                                                               
different if the missing person were a minor or an adult.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. FUSSEY responded that age is not a differentiating factor.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:09:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SPOHNHOLZ asked  about  the  proposed removal  of                                                               
reference to AS 47.10.141, which  she said refers to runaways and                                                               
missing minors.   She asked him for a description  of the thought                                                               
process behind that decision.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. MONFREDA  responded that  it would be  removed from  AS 47.10                                                               
because it would be covered under  AS 18.65, which she said would                                                               
prevent conflicting information.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SPOHNHOLZ   asked  for  clarification   that  the                                                               
reasoning behind the decision is  to ensure that the two sections                                                               
of law would not be conflicting.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MONFREDA replied  that AS  47.10.141  requires that  missing                                                               
minors  be reported  to state  and national  databases within  24                                                               
hours of  the missing  person report being  completed.   She said                                                               
that AS. 18.65  would now contain that information  and cover the                                                               
current reporting  of missing persons, consolidating  it into one                                                               
statute, and change the time frame to two hours.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   SPOHNHOLZ    asked   for    clarification   that                                                               
AS.47.10.141 is  being copied over to  AS 18.65.  She  noted that                                                               
AS 47.10.141  is several pages long.   She said she  wonders what                                                               
else might be missing.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. MONFREDA responded that the  only thing that is being removed                                                               
is the reference to the  24-hour reporting period, but everything                                                               
else would stay the same.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:12:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 4:12 p.m. to 4:14 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:14:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCARTY asked  Ms. Monfreda  about the  reasoning                                                               
behind the omission of AS  47.10.141, and whether that content is                                                               
necessary.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. MONFREDA answered  that the only thing that  would be changed                                                               
is  [subsection]  (a) [of  AS  47.10.141];  the other  paragraphs                                                               
would remain  the same.   It would  remove that reference  to the                                                               
24-hour time  frame for searching  for a missing person,  and the                                                               
reporting to the  Alaska Public Safety Information  number.  That                                                               
information would simply be moved from AS 47.10 to AS 18.65.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY  asked for confirmation that  the language                                                               
in AS. 47.10  would not be removed.  He  shared his understanding                                                               
that the  time frame  of reporting remains  necessary but  is not                                                               
necessary in resolving the issue in HB 106.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. MONFREDA confirmed that that is correct.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCARTY asked,  regarding the  National Database,                                                               
whether there would  be a need for computer systems  to allow law                                                               
enforcement to access the database.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MONFREDA responded  that  law  enforcement agencies  already                                                               
have  the  capabilities  to  access  the  systems  and  make  the                                                               
necessary entries.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:17:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KURKA  asked whether  there's an estimate  for the                                                               
percentage  of  cases in  Alaska  that  already comply  with  the                                                               
federal guideline.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. MONFREDA  answered that  she does  not have  that information                                                               
because it  is not  tracked or  audited by  her department.   She                                                               
said that the agencies would  need to develop tracking mechanisms                                                               
to  show that  cases  are being  entered in  a  timely manner  in                                                               
compliance with the law.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:18:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ZULKOSKY opened  public  testimony on  HB  106.   After                                                               
ascertaining that  there was  no one who  wished to  testify, she                                                               
closed public testimony.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ZULKOSKY announced that HB 106 was held over.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          HB 184-REQUIRE TRIBAL CHILD WELFARE COMPACT                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:19:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ZULKOSKY announced  that  the final  order of  business                                                               
would  be   HOUSE  BILL   NO.  184,   "An  Act   requiring  state                                                               
participation in a tribal child welfare compact."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:19:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 4:19 p.m. to 4:20 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:20:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ZULKOSKY presented  HB  184, as  prime  sponsor, via  a                                                               
PowerPoint presentation  entitled, "HB184   Tribal  Child Welfare                                                               
Compact,"  [hard copy  included in  the committee  packet].   She                                                               
explained that  the bill seeks  to protect implementation  of the                                                               
"historic and  landmark" Tribal Child  Welfare Compact  (TCWC) by                                                               
codifying it  in Alaska statute.   She said  that the TCWC  is an                                                               
agreement  between  tribes  and  the state  that  seeks  to  help                                                               
address  deep,  structural  inequities  in the  way  that  Alaska                                                               
children are cared  for across the state.  She  began on slide 2,                                                               
"Why   the  work   began,"  which   read  as   follows  [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Significant Disparities                                                                                                    
        • Alaska Native Children make up 15% of the state's                                                                     
          general population but represent 60% of the                                                                           
          children in state custody                                                                                             
        • Disparities of this nature indicate a system                                                                          
          failure in our child welfare system                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     OCS Retention Difficulties                                                                                                 
        • Office of Children's Services (OCS) typically                                                                         
          operates at a 50% vacancy rate and require                                                                            
          frontline workers to carry caseloads more than 3x                                                                     
          the national average                                                                                                  
        • The goal of HB 151 (2018) was to lower turnover                                                                       
          and vacancy rates, but despite increased funding,                                                                     
          turnover rates have not decreased                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ZULKOSKY continued on slide 3, "How the work began,"                                                                   
which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Tribal State Collaboration Group                                                                                           
   • A 25-year    partnership   between    state,   tribal                                                                      
     representatives, and invited stakeholders                                                                                  
   • Goals:                                                                                                                     
   • Strengthen Alaska's compliance with the Indian Child                                                                       
     Welfare Act (ICWA) of 1978.                                                                                                
   • ICWA is a Federal law that established standards for                                                                       
     the removal and placement of American Indian children                                                                      
       and enabled Tribes and families to be involved in                                                                        
     child welfare cases.                                                                                                       
   • Reduce the disproportionality of Alaska Native                                                                             
     children in state custody                                                                                                  
   • Build & strengthen working relationships                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Tribal Title IV-E Agreements                                                                                               
   • Provides Federal funding to states and tribes for                                                                          
     foster care, transitional independent living programs,                                                                     
     guardianship assistance, and adoption assistance                                                                           
   • Tribes also receive a higher reimbursement rate than                                                                       
     states for covered services, resulting in significant                                                                      
     General Fund savings.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ZULKOSKY proceeded to slide 4, "What is Alaska's                                                                       
Child Welfare Compact?"  The slide read as follows                                                                              
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
   • The Alaska Tribal  Welfare  Compact  (Compact)  is  a                                                                      
     government-to-government agreement to  improve the life                                                                    
     outcomes   for  Alaska's   children  and   families  by                                                                    
     transferring   specific,   negotiated   child   welfare                                                                    
     services and supports  (including revenue streams) from                                                                    
     the Office  of Children's Services (OCS)  to the Tribal                                                                    
     Co-Signers                                                                                                                 
   • The Compact was signed in 2017 by Governor Walker and                                                                      
     18  Tribal  Co-Signers;   representing  161  Federally-                                                                    
     recognized   Tribes   and  Tribal   Organizations   and                                                                    
     continued under Governor Dunleavy in 2019                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ZULKOSKY addressed slide 5, "Implementation                                                                            
Timeline," which read as follows [original punctuation                                                                          
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     FY2018                                                                                                                     
   • Tribal Co-Signers developed   their  programs,  built                                                                      
     capacity and infrastructure                                                                                                
   • OCS began sharing Protective Services Reports (PSRs or                                                                     
     'screen ins'  or 'screen outs'), and  provided training                                                                    
     and technical support                                                                                                      
     FY2019                                                                                                                     
   • Tribal Co-Signers began performing  Initial  Diligent                                                                      
     Relative Searches                                                                                                          
   • The Parties negotiated four new  Scopes  of Work  for                                                                      
     Ongoing Relatives  Searches, Family  Contact, Licensing                                                                    
     Assists, and Safety Evaluations                                                                                            
   • However, the State declined to sign due to a change in                                                                     
     Administration                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:24:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ZULKOSKY spoke to slide 6, "Implementation                                                                             
Timeline," which read as follows [original punctuation                                                                          
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     FY2020                                                                                                                     
   • Parties worked out differences  and  signed all  five                                                                      
     previously-negotiated Scopes:                                                                                              
   • Initial Diligent Relative Searches (IDRS)                                                                                  
   • Ongoing Relative Searches (ORS)                                                                                            
   • Family Contact                                                                                                             
   • Licensing Assists                                                                                                          
   • Safety Evaluations                                                                                                         
     FY2021                                                                                                                     
   • Negotiations will take place in May 2021                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ZULKOSKY advanced to slide 7, "Advantages," which                                                                      
read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
   • Provides higher quality services, closer to home, at a                                                                     
     lower cost through leveraging Tribal resources                                                                             
   • Strengthens state services by engaging Tribes, often                                                                       
        the most local government, on an issue of shared                                                                        
     interest                                                                                                                   
   • Increased public trust through existing family                                                                             
     relationships with Tribes                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ZULKOSKY proceeded to slide 8, "Adverse Childhood                                                                      
Experiences (ACES)," which read as follows [original                                                                            
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs) have a tremendous                                                                     
    impact   on    future   violence    victimization   and                                                                     
     perpetration, and lifelong health outcomes.                                                                                
      ACEs are potentially traumatic events that occur in                                                                       
     childhood (0-17 years):                                                                                                    
   • Experiencing violence, abuse, or neglect                                                                                   
   • Witnessing violence in the home or community                                                                               
   • Having a family member attempt or die by suicide                                                                           
   • Growing up in a household with substance abuse, mental                                                                     
    health   problems,   instability    due   to   parental                                                                     
     separation or household members in prison                                                                                  
     ACEs are linked to:                                                                                                        
   • Chronic health problems                                                                                                    
   • Mental illness                                                                                                             
   • Substance abuse problems in adulthood                                                                                      
       Increased incarceration rates ACEs can negatively                                                                        
     effect:                                                                                                                    
   • Education                                                                                                                  
   • Job opportunities                                                                                                          
   • Earning potential                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:26:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR   ZULKOSKY  discussed   slide   9,  "Adverse   Childhood                                                               
Experiences (ACES)," which read  as follows [original punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Adverse Childhood Experiences  (ACEs) have a tremendous                                                                    
     impact   on    future   violence    victimization   and                                                                    
     perpetration, and lifelong health outcomes.                                                                                
     How big is the problem?                                                                                                    
   • ACEs are common. 61% of adults surveyed across 25                                                                          
     states reported that they had  experienced at least one                                                                    
     type  of ACE,  and  nearly  1 in  6  reported they  had                                                                    
     experienced four or more types of ACEs.                                                                                    
   • Preventing ACEs could potentially reduce a large                                                                           
     number  of health  conditions. For  example, up  to 1.9                                                                    
     million cases of heart disease  and 21 million cases of                                                                    
     depression  could  have  been  potentially  avoided  by                                                                    
     preventing ACEs.                                                                                                           
   • Women and several racial/ethnic minority groups are at                                                                     
     greater risk for having experienced  4 or more types of                                                                    
     ACEs.                                                                                                                      
   • ACEs are costly. The economic and social costs to                                                                          
     families, communities,  and society totals  hundreds of                                                                    
     billions of dollars each year.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ZULKOSKY  continued on  slide 10,  "Sectional Analysis,"                                                               
which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Section  1: Amends  AS 47.05  to add  a new  section to                                                                    
     article  1  requiring the  State  to  participate in  a                                                                    
     Tribal Child Welfare Compact.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:29:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NICOLE BORROMEO,  General Counsel  and Executive  Vice President,                                                               
Alaska Federation  of Natives,  testified in  support of  HB 184.                                                               
She stated  that the bill is  necessary to cement the  compact in                                                               
law and  make it  no longer  at the  will of  the administration.                                                               
She  said the  bill would  allow for  opportunity to  improve the                                                               
child welfare system.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:30:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MELANIE  BAHNKE, President,  Kawerak  Organization, testified  in                                                               
support of HB 184.  She  shared that Kawerak is a regional tribal                                                               
consortium in  the Bering  Strait region of  Alaska and  has been                                                               
providing  services  for over  40  years,  including operating  a                                                               
child advocacy  center.   She expressed  that more  local control                                                               
results in better outcomes, whether  it's the health care system,                                                               
the Bureau  of Indian  Affairs (BIA)  programs, or  child welfare                                                               
programs.    She  echoed  Ms. Borromeo's  statement  that  it  is                                                               
important to  codify the  compact in statute  to protect  it from                                                               
being "wiped  away" with  an incoming  administration.   She said                                                               
that  significant resources  are being  invested as  part of  the                                                               
negotiation  process, and  all  participating  Kawerak staff  are                                                               
being compensated through Kawerak funds.   She added that Kawerak                                                               
is  willing  and  capable  of  taking  on  this  work  and  would                                                               
appreciate the  assurance that the  state will not write  off the                                                               
compacting process, but instead codify it into law.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:33:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VIVIAN KORTHUIS, Chief Executive  Officer, Association of Village                                                               
Council Presidents (AVCP),  testified in support of HB  184.  She                                                               
explained  that the  (AVPC)  represents  66 federally  recognized                                                               
tribes  on the  Yukon-Kuskokwim Delta.    She said  that the  top                                                               
three   priorities   of   AVCP  are   public   safety,   economic                                                               
development,  and community  wellness.   She stated  that healthy                                                               
children  and   families  are  paramount  to   achieve  community                                                               
wellness.   She said  that the TCWC  presents an  opportunity for                                                               
tribes and the  government to work together.  She  added that the                                                               
experience  and  knowledge  of  the tribes  make  the  tribes  an                                                               
excellent   resource  in   delivering  child   welfare  services,                                                               
especially in rural  Alaska.  She noted that  tribes have decades                                                               
of experience in  working with the federal  government in avenues                                                               
such as healthcare.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. KORTHUIS  specified that there  are approximately  500 tribal                                                               
children from the AVCP region  in OCS custody, and these children                                                               
all rely  on the tribes  to make appropriate decisions  that will                                                               
impact  the lives  of the  children.   She said  she has  over 15                                                               
years of  experience working in  tribal compacting, and  is aware                                                               
that  implementing a  compact takes  time,  effort, funding,  and                                                               
commitment.   She shared an example  of a child being  removed by                                                               
OCS in November 2020 from the  child's parents in Anchorage.  She                                                               
said  that AVPC  was contacted  to help  place the  child with  a                                                               
relative  and  was  able  to  successfully  find  an  appropriate                                                               
relative in the  village, which was possible only  because of the                                                               
compact.    She  reiterated  AVCP's  support  for  codifying  the                                                               
compact in law through HB 184.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:39:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS  asked Co-Chair Zulkosky whether  Alaska is                                                               
the leading state in child welfare compacts.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ZULKOSKY responded  yes and  offered her  understanding                                                               
that the proposed compact is the first of its kind.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS shared  his  understanding  that it  would                                                               
also  be the  first  statutory requirement  for  a child  welfare                                                               
compact.  Noting that it would  be the first statute of its kind,                                                               
he asked  about the  thought process behind  the language  of the                                                               
bill, what  "participate" means  in a legal  sense, and  what the                                                               
nature of a compact would be.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ZULKOSKY  responded  that   the  intention  behind  the                                                               
construct of  the legislation  as it  is written  is to  give the                                                               
most latitude to the governor  and the state in its negotiations,                                                               
as well as  the tribes.  It intends to  not be "too prescriptive"                                                               
and ensure that there is flexibility.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:43:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ELIZABETH  HENSLEY,  General  Counsel, Maniilaq  Association,  in                                                               
response  to Representative  Fields'  question,  stated that  the                                                               
term "participate"  intends to  indicate inclusion  without being                                                               
too  prescriptive.    She  explained that  it  intends  to  avoid                                                               
mandating the  compact to look  a particular way, and  it intends                                                               
to allow for  a unique agreement that affirms that  there are two                                                               
governments, each with its own  sovereign nature, coming together                                                               
into the  agreement.  She said  the risk is that  the state could                                                               
treat the tribes not as the  unique entities that the tribes are,                                                               
but as "any old third party."                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS  asked Ms. Hensley whether  she thinks that                                                               
the scope of a child welfare  compact can change over time within                                                               
the parameters of the language.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. HENSLEY answered that the type  of compact at hand is a child                                                               
welfare  compact, and  the  Indian Child  Welfare  Act (ICWA),  a                                                               
federal law, speaks to that.   She explained that ICWA authorizes                                                               
states  and tribes  to enter  into an  agreement with  respect to                                                               
child welfare, which  connects it to federal law.   She stated it                                                               
would be  desirable for  the compact  to be  able to  evolve over                                                               
time  to be  most tailored  to  the needs  of Alaska's  children.                                                               
This is why  there's an annual negotiation cycle  in the compact,                                                               
she said, and the next negotiation is set to happen in May 2021.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ZULKOSKY  recalled  Ms.   Korthuis  mentioning  in  her                                                               
testimony that  the tribal  health compact  has evolved  over the                                                               
past  25 years.   She  said the  health care  community has  made                                                               
great  strides during  those 25  years.   She explained  that the                                                               
brevity of the language is to  ensure that those types of strides                                                               
and  accomplishments  can  be   achieved,  while  protecting  the                                                               
compact in statute.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:48:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KURKA said  the timing of the  bill seems awkward.                                                               
He opined that  the agreement should be  finalized before passing                                                               
the law to  require conformance with it.  He  noted that Co-Chair                                                               
Zulkosky  mentioned in  her  presentation  that the  negotiations                                                               
would be taking place in May.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ZULKOSKY responded that the  compact is already in place                                                               
and ongoing; it  was signed in 2017 and  agreements have happened                                                               
both  on the  state and  tribal  sides.   Annual negotiations  to                                                               
update  the  agreements   are  in  place  to   have  any  ongoing                                                               
discussions.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KURKA asked whether  this would mean requiring the                                                               
state to  comply with  the parts  of the  compact that  have been                                                               
negotiated and agreed upon, and not the new parts.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ZULKOSKY  answered that  the intention of  the broadness                                                               
of  the language  is  to  protect the  child  welfare compact  in                                                               
statute.    It  would  require  that the  state  and  the  tribes                                                               
participate in  the compact,  she said.   The details  related to                                                               
the different  scopes of work  are not included, and  the ongoing                                                               
particulars  about what  has previously  been  negotiated is  not                                                               
included intentionally  because, as  was mentioned  in testimony,                                                               
those are  updated from year to  year.  She explained  that these                                                               
items  might be  negotiated upon  again and  there may  be tribes                                                               
that opt to  participate and others that may take  on more scopes                                                               
of work.   The  bill, she  said, would  require that  the compact                                                               
remain in place.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:52:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SPOHNHOLZ  offered  her  understanding  that  the                                                               
compact  has  already  been  signed,  and that  it  is  a  policy                                                               
approach   that  has   carried   over   from  administration   to                                                               
administration.   What is being  proposed in the bill,  she said,                                                               
is to codify  what it is that has already  been happening without                                                               
being too  prescriptive, telling  Governor Dunleavy what  he must                                                               
compact for,  or telling tribes what  they must compact for.   It                                                               
instead would simply  mandate participation in the  compact.  She                                                               
asked Co-Chair Zulkosky if she's correct in her understanding.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ZULKOSKY responded yes, and  that it's not only to avoid                                                               
being over prescription, but it  has been a compact agreement and                                                               
working relationship  that has spanned  multiple administrations.                                                               
She said that  the intention of keeping it broad  is to make sure                                                               
there is  latitude for incoming administrations  while protecting                                                               
the work that's been done to date.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SPOHNHOLZ stated that the  language of the bill is                                                               
elegant  and  would  allow  the  compact  to  grow,  particularly                                                               
regarding health care compacting.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:54:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCARTY  requested  a  review  of  "the  contract                                                               
arrangements."                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ZULKOSKY asked  Ms. Hensley  to  review the  difference                                                               
between contracting  and compacting,  and what agreements  are in                                                               
place for compacting.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:55:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HENSLEY  stated  that  the   compact  is  available  on  the                                                               
Department of Health  and Social Services  website.   She said it                                                               
was  a momentous  occasion when  the 18  cosigners and  the state                                                               
signed the  compact.  The  compact is  a government-to-government                                                               
agreement  and leaves  it  up  to the  discretion  of the  tribal                                                               
organization to dictate the process  that is most appropriate for                                                               
that tribal  organization.  She  stated that the  compact ensures                                                               
that  services be  provided in  a culturally  appropriate manner,                                                               
and in a  way that will help  the child feel loved  and rooted in                                                               
who they  are as  an Alaska  Native person, as  well as  help the                                                               
child  grow  into a  healthy  adult  and contributing  member  of                                                               
society.   She explained  that a contract  dictates the  scope of                                                               
work.   Compacts allow  for the  tribes to  draw on  their 10,000                                                               
years of  history and allow the  tribes to use that  expertise to                                                               
provide the  service to the kids.   This is the  reasoning behind                                                               
choosing a compact over a contract, she added.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BORROMEO  noted that  the  compact  was jointly  drafted  in                                                               
partnership  with  the Attorney  General's  office,  not a  draft                                                               
agreement crafted  exclusively by tribal attorneys  and presented                                                               
to  the state.   She  added that  the state  will never  have the                                                               
access of the tribe and the tribes will never have the resources                                                                
had by the state.  She emphasized that to make the compact                                                                      
stronger it needs to be codified in statute.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[HB 184 was held over.]                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:03:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Health and Social Services Standing Committee meeting was                                                                       
adjourned at 5:03 p.m.                                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
10 CSHB 133 Fiscal Note UA-SYSBRA 3.13.21.pdf HHSS 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 133
1 CSHB 133 ver I Sponsor Statement 4.8.2021.pdf HHSS 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 133
HB 133 Sponsor Presentation 3.30.21.pdf HHSS 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 133
2 CSHB0133 ver I.PDF HHSS 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 133
3 CSHB 133 Summary of Changes ver B to ver I 4.8.2021.pdf HHSS 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 133
4 Sectional Analysis CSHB 133 ver I 4.8.2021.pdf HHSS 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 133
5 HB0133 ver B.PDF HHSS 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 133
6 CSHB 133 Supporting Document - IRS ABLE Accounts Info 3.18.21.pdf HHSS 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 133
7 CSHB 133 Supporting Document - 10 Things You Should Know About ABLE 3.18.21.pdf HHSS 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 133
8 CSHB 133 Supporting Document - UA Press Release 3.18.21.pdf HHSS 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 133
9 CSHB 133 Fiscal Note DHSS, 3.18.21.pdf HHSS 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 133
HB 145 DCCED Letter 4.14.21.pdf HHSS 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 145
HB 145 Fiscal Note - DCCED, 4.09.21.pdf HHSS 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 145
HB0145A.PDF HHSS 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 145
HB 145, AK Pharmacists Assn. Fact Sheet.pdf HHSS 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 145
HB 145, AK Pharmacists Assn. Talking Points.pdf HHSS 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 145
HB 145, Sectional Analysis, Ver. A.pdf HHSS 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 145
HB 145 LOS since 4.16.21.pdf HHSS 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 145
HB 145, Sponsor Statement, Ver. A.pdf HHSS 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 145
HB 106 Sectional Analysis 04.12.2021.pdf HHSS 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 5/13/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 106
HB 106 Sponsor Statement 04.12.2021.pdf HHSS 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 5/13/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 106
HB0106A.PDF HHSS 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 106
HB 106 Additional Statistics 04.12.2021.pdf HHSS 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 106
HB 106 DPS Fiscal Note 04.12.2021.pdf HHSS 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 5/13/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 106
HB 106 HSS Fiscal Note 04.12.2021.pdf HHSS 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 5/13/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 106
HB0184A.PDF HHSS 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HTRB 5/4/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 184
HB 184 Sectional Analysis version A.pdf HHSS 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HTRB 5/4/2021 8:00:00 AM
SHSS 3/31/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 184
HB 184 Sponsor Statement version A.pdf HHSS 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HTRB 5/4/2021 8:00:00 AM
SHSS 3/31/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 184
HB 145 Amendments.pdf HHSS 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 145
HHSS HB 106 DPS Presentation 04.22.2021.pdf HHSS 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HHSS 5/13/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 106
FHP Letter of Support for HB 145_4.20.2121.pdf HHSS 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 145
HB 184 Powerpoint 4-22-21.pdf HHSS 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HTRB 5/4/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 184
HB 184 Powerpoint 4-22-21.pptx HHSS 4/22/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 184